Tag: Post Trib Theories

DANGEROUS DOCTRINES. PART FOUR.

Today I want to look at the words of Jesus in Mat 24:37-39  “As it was in the days  of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away.”  That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.

Jesus inferred that the story of Noah is a shadow or symbol of how it will be when He comes back at the rapture, so I want to look closely at this story, and make comparisons to the rapture.

Noah was chosen to be saved from God’s wrath because he was found to be righteous.   Gen 7:1  “The LORD then said to Noah, “Go into the ark, you and your whole family, because I have found you righteous in this generation. “

At the rapture, Jesus is coming to save the righteous from His wrath, as we see in Rom 5:9  “Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through him! ”   Only the righteous will be taken up in the rapture.

In  Gen 6:13   God said to Noah, “I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them.   I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth.”      Today we have exactly the same situation, the earth is filled with violence.   Child abuse, child exploitation, abuse of the elderly, domestic violence, sexual slavery, racial hatreds, religious hatreds, criminal violence, etc. and wars everywhere we look.

In Mat 24:38  Jesus also says  “People were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark”   That is also a true picture of today, amidst all the violence around us, there is still a level of normality, and revelry, so this is also an accurate picture of today’s world.

Noah and his sons were building the ark for about a hundred years, and during that time they would have been warning the people of what was coming,     The same thing is happening today; God’s servants are building His church and warning people of what is coming.     The people in Noah’s day probably laughed and said, “yeah yeah, we have been hearing that now for decades.“    Today the world is saying “yeah yeah, we have been hearing that for centuries.“

Noah was taken into the ark and the door was shut by God, BEFORE judgement began to be poured out.   At the rapture the “True Church” will also be taken BEFORE judgement is poured out.   With Noah safe in the ark, the ark rises up on the waters, right up above the earth, up above the mountain tops and into the clouds.   The Church abides safely in Jesus Christ, our ark, and we shall also be taken up above the earth and into the clouds, just like Noah, and like in Noah’s day, judgement will begin when the True Church is safe with Jesus.

Jesus deliberately pointed to Noah in Matt 24 37 as a type or shadow of things to come. The Bible is full of types and shadows, like Noah and the flood;  like Jonah in the belly of the whale;  like the snake raised on a wooden pole to bring healing to those who looked on it in belief;  like Moses smiting the rock in the wilderness and water gushing out,  (Jesus our rock); and many many more.

These types and shadows of things to come, all show that there are different dispensations, at which time the type or the shadow becomes the reality.  But if you do not accept that there are different dispensations, then you cannot accept that the majority of the Bible is to be taken literally, therefore these types and shadows become meaningless.    In the other doctrines on the Rapture, the story of Noah loses its significance, because it doesn’t fit into their Mid Trib, Pre Wrath, or Post Tribulation doctrines.

We must always remember that the teachings of Jesus were given to the nation of Israel, before the Church even existed; how can you then apply them to the Church?     Doing so causes a huge number of contradictions to occur between the teachings of Jesus, and the teachings of the apostle Paul.

The majority of Jesus’ teaching concerns the tribulation period, which does NOT apply to the Church.      For example,  Israel is told that Messiah is coming back to the earth WITH His saints at the end of the Tribulation. The Church however, is told Jesus is coming back FOR His saints, to take them to be with Him in heaven forever.

Jesus speaks of the “Times of the gentiles” Luk 21:24 “And they (Israel) shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led captive into all the nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times (dispensation) of the Gentiles be fulfilled.”    Jesus even names Jerusalem, and is clearly speaking to Israel if you read the context from verse 20 & 21, but Post “Tribbers” say, NO, this applies to the whole world, including the church.

Jesus said Mat 16:18  “And I also say unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock (or revelation of who Jesus is) I will build my church; and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it.”   But in Rev 13:7  it says “And it was given unto him (Antichrist) to make war with the saints, and to overcome them:”   Antichrist does prevail against the Tribulation saints, but he is unable to prevail against the Church.

King Solomon was probably the first to teach that there were dispensations for every thing, see Ecc 3:1 “There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens:“   If you read the whole chapter it makes it very clear that God has set dispensations (set times or appointed times, as for household duties) for everything.   We also saw clearly in PART ONE that both Jesus & Paul clearly speak of dispensations.

I feel it is time to wrap this up as I believe that I have made very clear the dangers of the other doctrines eschatological beliefs, and I could go on for weeks about this, but I feel it would be of no further benefit.

Let me summarise what we have discussed so far.

Nah 1:2   “He reserves His WRATH for His ENEMIES.”      Jer 46:10 For this is the day of the Lord God of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he may avenge him of his adversaries.     Eph 5:6  “The wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.”

So if you go through ANY part of the tribulation period, starting from the first seal to the seventh vial or bowl, then the Bible says many times in both OT and NT, that you are an enemy of the Lord.    My view is that the “True Church” is NOT God’s enemy and therefore will NOT go through any part of the tribulation period.

Mat 6:31-33 shows there is no need for “Prepping” (i.e. stocking up years of food, guns, gold, ammunition etc. etc for the tribulation period)    As Matt 6:31-33 shows, “prepping” is only done by the unbelievers out of fear. Zep_1:18  says “Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in The Day of The Lord’s wrath;”

We also saw that we cannot be purified any more than we have been, by going through the tribulation.   1 Jn 1:7  But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanses us from ALL SIN.

In Rev Chap 6, we saw two very important things.    1. It is the Lamb of God opening the seals and sending His judgement upon the earth, not the Antichrist, nor wicked men; and the fourth seal alone costs the lives of one quarter of earth’s inhabitants.        2. God’s wrath is acknowledged in Rev 6:16&17 where we are told that God’s wrath has ALREADY come;  Past tense.     God’s wrath began when the Lamb BEGAN opening the seven seal judgements, NOT at the seventh trumpet as some doctrines suggest. 

In Part Two we saw that before the Rapture there would be a major falling away from the faith; and the major Revival following, comes as a result of the rapture  during the Tribulation.

Also, we saw that the first resurrection (which includes the Rapture) comes in several stages, every man in his correct order or time.

Another thing we noted was that Jesus coming for His Bride,  cannot be the same as the Angels coming for the surviving remnants of the tribulation, as the “Post Trib” doctrine teaches. (They are mixing Israel up with the Church again).

We also discovered that the 7 th Angel sounding his trumpet, is NOT GOD sounding HIS trumpet, as other doctrines state.

We closely examined the fact that the 24 “Elders” at the beginning of the Tribulation in Rev Chapter 4, must be human beings who have already been resurrected/raptured, judged and rewarded for their works, as they are seated on thrones around the throne of God.    We researched in detail who these “Elders” could be, and found in Rev 5:10 that they had been redeemed by the blood of the Lamb. From this research we concluded that the 24 Elders can only be “The Church, the Bride of Christ” as no other persons or beings fit the description.

Finally we compared Noah and the great flood, as being a type or shadow, & therefore symbolic of the Pre Tribulation Rapture, and we found the two match each other perfectly.

I trust these thoughts and insights help you to better understand God’s love toward us, and the wonderful future He has for us, just around the corner.

Mar 13:33 “Take heed, watch and pray, for you do not know when the time is.”   However — 1Th 5:4 “But you, brothers, are not in darkness, that the Day should overtake you like a thief.” You will not know the day nor the hour, BUT you will certainly know the season. God Bless.

DANGEROUS DOCTRINES – PART THREE.

I would like to clarify the reason why I have titled these posts “Dangerous Doctrines”.      Let me be very clear on this, it is NOT because I believe that “True Christians” who believe these doctrines will not be taken up in the rapture!   I do believe that they will be taken even although they do not believe in a “Pre Tribulation Rapture”.    I believe that ALL “True Christians” will be taken up in the rapture regardless of what “Doctrines ” they believe.

The reason these doctrines are so dangerous, is because they teach their friends, children, grandchildren and other colleagues etc.  that they still have plenty of time to make a decision for Christ.   That is exactly the opposite to what the Bible teaches, and therefore highly dangerous, as their unsaved friends and relatives could easily finish up in the Great Tribulation, as a result of believing these dangerous doctrines.    Rev 3:11  “Behold, I come quickly. Hold fast to that which you have, so that no one may take your crown.”      Jesus never taught that His return was years in the future.      Philippians  4:5  “Let your moderation be known to all men, The Lord is at hand”  Paul said.   Paul also believed it was very close.          In 2Pet 3:11  Peter says “Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness.”   Peter obviously was not expecting it to be years before it happened.

Zeph 1:14a  “The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hastens greatly, ”     Today, all the signs indicate the Rapture could take place at any moment, and we should be living like it could happen at any moment, and we should be teaching our family and friends the same.

I said in my last post I would give scriptural evidence strongly supporting my belief that the rapture precedes the Great Tribulation.    Rev 4:4 says,  “And around the throne I saw twenty-four thrones. And on the thrones I saw twenty-four elders sitting, clothed in white clothing. And they had crowns of gold on their heads.”    Much evidence for a pre trib rapture lies in the identity of the 24 Elders seated “on thrones” around the throne of God.    There have been a number of different ideas and conjectures put forward as to who these “Elders” are.      Some say they are the twelve sons of Jacob, representing the OT Saints plus the twelve Apostles, representing the NT Saints.    Others say they are others say that they are God’s counsellors.   Still others believe they are heavenly beings, related somehow to the “Four Beasts”, as with the “Elders” they worship God together.

As I have already shown in part two, the OT Saints will not be resurrected until the end of the Tribulation, the end of the Old Covenant.     See Rev 11:15&18.  “And the seventh angel sounded. And there were great voices in Heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world have become (past tense) the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ.  And He will reign forever and ever.   Rev 11:18  And the nations were full of wrath, and Your wrath came, and the time of the judging of the dead, and to give the reward to Your servants the prophets, and to the saints, (OT) and to the ones fearing Your name, to the small and to the great, and to destroy those destroying the earth.”    These verses are clearly after Jesus Returns to the earth as King of Kings!    That also lines up with what Daniel was told in Dan 12:13  “But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.”  i.e.  the end of days being the end of the OT Covenant.   This is will also be the end of the seventy weeks pronounced by the angel from Dan 9:24-27.    This evidence shows that they cannot be the twelve sons of Jacob.

Are these 24 Elders Heavenly beings?   I find NO reference anywhere in scripture to “Elders” being Heavenly beings.   Angels, Arch Angels, Seraphim, Cherubim, The Four Beasts with four faces, God, The Holy Spirit, The Lamb of God, The seven Spirits of God, are all heavenly beings, but no Elders.   They are not heavenly beings as later evidence will show.

NOR does God require any Counsellors.   In fact the Bible says in Isa 40:13  “Who has directed the Spirit of the LORD, or being his counsellor hath taught him?”   God knows more than any counsellor, either earthly or heavenly.

The only “Elders” ever mentioned in the Bible are “Human Beings”.  So who exactly are these “Elders” in Rev 4:4?    Let us look closely at the verse, because the verse itself provides most of the answer.    Rev 4:4   “And around the throne I saw twenty four elders sitting, clothed in white clothing.   And they had gold crowns on their heads.”

Clue No 1.   They are royalty, as they are sitting on “thrones” and only royalty sit on thrones.

Clue No 2.   They are seated in the presence of God and the Lamb.  So they are very “High Royalty,” very closely related to the King, otherwise they would be standing before the throne.

Clue No 3.   They are clothed in  “White Clothing”.     White clothing is portrayed throughout Revelation as signifying the righteousness of saints.   Rev 3:5  “The one who overcomes, this one will be clothed in white clothing”

Clue No 4.  They had crowns of gold on their heads.    The crowns of gold on their heads, indicates that their works have been tested and tried and they have received their rewards, viz. the golden crowns.   1Pet 5:4  “And when the Chief Shepherd shall appear, you shall receive a never-fading crown of glory.”

Clue No 5.  The crowns and the white raiment stay in place on their bodies, so they must have resurrected bodies;  they are not spirits without bodies.

Clue No 6.  Is found  in Rev 5:9b   “And they sang a new song, saying, You are worthy to take the book and to open its seals, for You were slain and have redeemed us to God by Your blood out of every kindred and tongue and people and nation.”    Only human beings fit this description.     I indicated earlier that I would give evidence of their humanity.     This is solid evidence.   Only human beings have been redeemed by the blood of the Lamb of God.

Clue No 7.  In Rev 5:14  “And the four living creatures said, Amen. And the twenty-four elders fell down and worshiped the One living forever and ever.”   Here they are seen to be worshipping the one on the central throne, i.e. God.    Who in the Bible is shown to fit all seven of these clues?   The answer to this question, reveals who these elders really are.

The answer is found 5 times in the Bible, in 5 separate verses.

Exo 19:5&6    “And now if you will obey My voice indeed, and keep My covenant, then you shall be a peculiar treasure to Me above all the nations; for all the earth is Mine.     And you shall be to Me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.  These are the words which you shall speak to the sons of Israel.”

(a).   Because Israel did NOT keep God’s Covenant, and  (b).  Because as we have already seen Israel has NOT YET been resurrected, the Israelites cannot be the Elders seen here in Rev Ch 4&5    Exodus 19:5&6     So this one is a no fit.

1Pe 2:9 “But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for possession, so that you might speak of the praises of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;”      Peter is speaking of course of the Church.      This is the first verse proving our claim to both  Royalty and Priesthood.

Rev 1:6  “and (He has) made us kings and priests to God and His Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.”   So this is the second time it is recorded that we are both kings and priests.    Note that in the OT, only the High Priest was allowed to go into the Holy of Holies, i.e. into the presence of God. This is the second confirmation.

Rev 5:9   “And they sang a new song, saying, You are worthy to take the book and to open its seals, for You were slain and have redeemed us to God by Your blood out of every kindred and tongue and people and nation.”        The Church, the Bride of Jesus are the only people who have been redeemed out of every tribe and nation at this point in time.  This is the third confirmation.

Rev 5:10a  “And You made us kings and priests to our God,”   This is the fourth confirmation.

Rev 5:10b   “and we will reign over the earth.”    The ONLY people who qualify for this position to be both Kings and Priests unto God, and who have the honour  to rule and reign with Jesus over the earth is the Church.        This is the fifth confirmation.

These verses give very solid evidence that these “Elders” are representing the Church, the Bride of Christ, hence their very high position, seated around the throne.      Seen here in Rev Ch 4 and Ch 5 the “Elders” have already been redeemed and rewarded BEFORE the Tribulation period even commences in Chapter 6.

Some people ask, “Why 24 Elders?”  The reason is simple.   When King David appointed the priests who would worship in the Temple, in 1 Chron Ch 23 he appointed 24 shifts or courses as the Bible calls them, of  priests who would rotate to cover the worship of God 24 hours a day, every day of the year, allowing for sickness and holidays etc. so there would never be a time when there were no priests worshipping God in the temple.     These 24 “Elders” in Rev 4:4 represent all the 24 shifts or courses of priests, as appointed by King David.

So then, when in the Bible did the rapture take place?   I believe it is seen in Rev 4:1  “After these things I looked, and behold, a door was opened in heaven. And the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me, saying, Come up here, and I will show you what must occur after these things.”     God’s voice is often likened to a “Trumpet”   Rev 1:10  says  “I came to be in the Spirit in the Lord’s day and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,”   .   Clearly Rev 4:1 is a type or shadow of the reality, which will take place at the end of the Church age. 

God is a God of love, and he reveals His plans to us through His word. Amos 3:7 says “For the Lord Jehovah will do nothing unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets.”     The Book of Revelation is just one such book.  I do not believe that the Lord could have made it any clearer than He has.

It is only when people do not believe the literal word of God, that they have to “allegorise” it to make it fit in with their own theories, and that is when problems arise.    Unfortunately this is a very common occurrence when people do not believe in dispensations, as we see here with the different Rapture theories.

 

DANGEROUS DOCTRINES. PART TWO.

Post Trib Doctrine believes that the greatest move of God and the greatest harvest of souls that the world has ever seen, will happen immediately before the Lord’s return.   (NO Rapture)   They quote “Rev 7:9  After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands.”

My response :-    “2 Thess 2:3  Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day, (The Day of the Lord, i.e. The Tribulation period) cannot begin, except there come a falling away first, (“Apostasia” = Apostacy or a Rebellion against God) and the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.”      This “Apostasia”  has to take place BEFORE the Tribulation can begin.  This falling away is the OPPOSITE to a revival.   NB the timing of these events is critical.

DURING the Tribulation, the greatest harvest of souls that the world has ever seen will occur.   The reason for this great revival is  “The Rapture” which precedes the “The Day of The Lord.”      After the rapture, all the friends, relatives, backsliders and nominal Christians, who are not “True Christians”, and who are not “abiding in Jesus” because they have never been truly “Born Again”, plus millions of others will suddenly realise that the Bible is true.  The disappearance of the ‘Bride of Christ” at the rapture, will trigger the greatest revival ever seen.    You see if you don’t believe in dispensations, the Bible appears to contradict itself.

Post Trib Doctrine believes there is only one gathering.    They quote “Mat 24:29–31;  Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they (His Angels) shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”     (No mention in this passage of any resurrection.)

My response :-  Note,  1.   There is clearly more than one gathering in  1Cor 15:23 where it says “But every man in his own order: (Order = “Tagma”  a series of, a succession.) Christ the firstfruits; afterward (Epeita = thereafter or afterwards) they that are Christ’s at his coming.”      That means at His coming for His Bride, the Church.     Christ the firstfruits, then there will be a succession, the next in order as seen in 1Thess 4:16  The dead in Christ shall rise first;   1Thess 4:17  Then we which are alive and remain are the next in this succession.   Afterwards come the tribulation saints, as seen in in Rev 7:9, it seems the OT prophets, and the OT saints may be last, as they appear in Rev 11 18 to be rewarded.     (OT prophets, and the OT saints are not part of the Church, as Christ did not dwell in them, nor they in Christ, nor were they indwelt by the Holy Spirit, but The Holy Spirit came upon them as required)

  1. At the Rapture, the world has no hope of seeing Jesus, as (a) He only comes into the clouds, and (b) it will be all over in the blink of an eye.
  2. At the Rapture it is JESUS Himself who comes “in the clouds” to gather His Bride unto Himself  – 1Th 4:16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1Th 4:17  “Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”    Jesus does not send His Angels to collect His Bride,  He comes Himself!

Please note, the gathering in at the end of the Tribulation, when Jesus sends out the Angels to gather in “His elect” is NOT  a resurrection, NEITHER is it a “Translation”; rather it is Jesus gathering up the surviving believers, who got saved after the Rapture, during the tribulation period, but who were not martyred during the Tribulation.   These survivors are the people who will populate the earth during the millennial period, as normal human beings like us, but ALL of them will be Christians to start with.    

Unlike the Post Trib Doctrine believers, BOTH Mid Trib and Pre Wrath Doctrine believers, agree that the Resurrection / Rapture takes place at the last trumpet in “Rev 11 15-18  And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; ……………….. 18 And the nations were angry, and and thy wrath is come and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.”

From this passage they conclude that the first half of the “Tribulation period” is not GOD pouring out His wrath, but it is merely mens’ wrath against each other in wars etc. because the passage “and thy wrath is come”  does not occur until after the 7th Angel sounds his trumpet.

They also quote 1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.    They equate this last trump 1 Cor 15:52 to be the same as  Rev 11:15  i.e. the sounding of the 7 th and final angel’s trumpet.     This means that we have two distinct problems here.     1.  When does God begin to pour out His wrath in the book of Revelation?        2. Is the Trump of God mentioned in 1 Thess 4:16  the same as the 7th Angel’s trumpet blown in Rev 11:15?

My response :-   1.     Let us ask, who is opening the seven seals?   That person is the one releasing judgement and wrath upon the earth.     In Rev. Ch 6:1  we are clearly told at the very beginning of the 7 years of tribulation that it is the Lamb of God, Jesus Himself opening the seven seals. Therefore Jesus is the one releasing God’s wrath on a wicked and evil world.

Is there further confirmation that this is GOD’S WRATH, not just mens’ wrath against each other in wars etc?

After the fourth seal, read Rev 6:7&8  & power was given to Death, and Hell.  And they, Death and Hell killed a quarter of the earth’s population.     Men cannot give power to death and hell!     Jesus gave Death and Hell this power.

The clincher comes after the sixth seal, in Rev 6:15-17  where we are told that the kings of the earth, and the great men and the rich men, cry out to the mountains and rocks, ‘fall on us, and hide us from the face of Him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:  For the great day of HIS wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?’

There is no question in the minds of those on earth at that time as to whose wrath is being poured out when the seven seals are opened.      This is clearly GOD’S wrath not mens, and it is right at the beginning of the Tribulation Period.

  1.  Rev 11:15   ‘And the seventh angel sounded his trumpet’, does not seem to me to be the same as 1Thess 4:16   ‘For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first’.  I suggest the “Trump of God” is not the trumpet of the seventh angel.

According to Jewish tradition, and agreed to by Jewish Christian believers, the first trump of GOD was blown on the Feast of Pentecost in Exodus 19:19.  “And when the blast of the trumpet sounded long and became louder and louder, Moses spoke, and God answered him by voice.”

One Jewish Christian teacher says “1 Corinthians 15:52  speaks of the ‘last trump’  This is not the last trump of Revelation.     Revelation had not been written at the time of Paul’s reference to it. The last trump of Revelation 11:15 is the last trump of the Old Covenant signifying the end of Daniel’s seventieth year.  The last trumpet for the Old Covenant and the last trump of GOD for end of the Church age are not the same.    The last trumpet in Revelation 11:15 for end of the Old Covenant with Israel is an Angel’s trumpet blast, whereas the Last trump for the end of the Church Age is God’s Trumpet, 1 Thess 4:16.

Finally for Part two, we have seen clearly, that it is God and the Lamb of God pouring out their wrath during the entire tribulation period, so consider this, John 15:4  Jesus said  “Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.”    If we are abiding in Jesus, and He abides in us, and if the Church has not been taken out first in the Rapture, then during the tribulation He will be pouring out His wrath on Himself, because we are hid in Christ.

Also in light of  1Cor 6:19  our body is the temple of the Holy Ghost who dwells in us,  therefore God would also be destroying the temples of the Holy Spirit.

In part three I will give strong scriptural evidence supporting my belief that the Church is already in Heaven during the entire Tribulation period.    Don’t miss it.